tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post7357218021762697907..comments2023-06-09T15:50:07.543+02:00Comments on Shy at WoW: Random thoughts on TradeskillsSweetcherriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03904742253394231819noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-56959190617218019732009-10-01T05:38:23.000+02:002009-10-01T05:38:23.000+02:00I didn't buy any of the enchants, I or my alts...I didn't buy any of the enchants, I or my alts didn't need. Tough if I don't have what someone is after, my tradeskill is self supported, I funded it, most of the people who want enchants don't offer tips, or get upset if you expect a fee. "But you might get a skill up" they argue. I think if mats dropped off bosses though, they would still need to be tradeable. Enchanters could make a pretty penny from that :)Zahrahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-74497607411630848302009-09-30T03:27:29.000+02:002009-09-30T03:27:29.000+02:00Speaking of engineering, since you haven't pos...Speaking of engineering, since you haven't posted it yet .. Firefighter! Skinning him after that was such joy. :)Celedhringnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-42388539714760757022009-09-24T23:26:05.000+02:002009-09-24T23:26:05.000+02:00Well, we have a bit of a funny situation there. I ...Well, we have a bit of a funny situation there. I think all the guild's engineering people are in our 10man, like all 4 of them or so. So normally they race it, for funs, and then divide stuff to whomever needs it most at that moment. <br /><br />Within guild none of this stuff is a problem, problems only start when you invite the great unknown called PUG. <br /><br />Recent blog:=- <a href="http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/09/random-thoughts-on-tradeskills.html" rel="nofollow"> Random thoughts on Tradeskills</a>Shynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-14108766011320315632009-09-24T20:38:02.000+02:002009-09-24T20:38:02.000+02:00I totally agree with you about the Enchanter stuff...I totally agree with you about the Enchanter stuff, but given the current game mechanics in dungeons we just greed everything, and I de for the people I know in the group.<br /><br />How do you handle engineering XT-002 for parts? At first our engineers thought mats to the guild bank was unfair. When I brought up the similarity to dis-enchanting unwanted epics for the guildbank, they changed their minds.Alerexisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-69531180778092071522009-09-24T19:43:48.000+02:002009-09-24T19:43:48.000+02:00I enchant many people in the guild, and though all...I enchant many people in the guild, and though all of them chip in of course, I still run out of shards/dust/essences quite regularly. Not so often out of crystals funny enough. <br /><br />Recent blog:=- <a href="http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/09/random-thoughts-on-tradeskills.html" rel="nofollow"> Random thoughts on Tradeskills</a>Shynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-46959157956080484162009-09-24T17:19:34.000+02:002009-09-24T17:19:34.000+02:00In pugs, How I solved this is if no other enchante...In pugs, How I solved this is if no other enchanter is in the group. I never speak up, and roll greed on loot like everyone else. I win the roll the loot is mine.<br /><br />Very passionate about your shards, I have so many it isn't funny.Rivsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-55766168178018242332009-09-24T14:47:28.000+02:002009-09-24T14:47:28.000+02:00It's not just that skinners get a bonus. With ...It's not just that skinners get a bonus. With loot drops from mobs, if there is no enchanter in the party, individual members can still roll on the loot and take it to an enchanter to be disenchanted. However, if there's no skinner in the party, <em>there is no Arctic Fur to be rolled on</em>; without an herbalist, the herbs in the instance are completely unusable; etc. <br /><br />In other words, equating loot drops in instances to herb/ore nodes or skinnable mobs would require that if there were no enchanter present, <em>the boss wouldn't drop loot</em>. Since that's clearly not the case, a different comparison needs to be drawn. Frankly, in my experience as an enchanter (on an alt, I admit), my equivalent to herb/ore nodes was the Auction House, spending gold on mats instead of time flying around looking for nodes.<br /><br />Honestly, the only reasonable solution I've seen for the enchanting problem - which has been going on for five years and shows no sign of being fixed - is to have enchanting materials be semi-rare drops from mobs (like cloth from humanoids or Chilled Meat from beasts, but less common), visible only to enchanters. Perhaps the very highest-end materials, Abyss Crystals etc., could only be acquired by disenchanting, to keep the high-end enchants reasonably uncommon.<br /><br />For what it's worth, I don't think I've rolled on a shard since I hit 80. (My main is an herbalist/alchemist - and since the other herbalists in my guild seem to believe that if you see an herb, it's yours to take, even if there are other herbalists in the group, I don't often get herbs out of instances either.)Chris A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-8899268678336795382009-09-24T08:13:31.000+02:002009-09-24T08:13:31.000+02:00Hmm..so maybe it should just be made so loot comin...Hmm..so maybe it should just be made so loot coming of dungeon mobs cannot be sold anymore! <br /><br />Recent blog:=- <a href="http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/09/random-thoughts-on-tradeskills.html" rel="nofollow"> Random thoughts on Tradeskills</a>Shynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-26601202876993265862009-09-23T23:40:17.000+02:002009-09-23T23:40:17.000+02:00I dont skin, so I don't pick those up either!!...I dont skin, so I don't pick those up either!! <br /><br />But its also different. Artics furs come off the corpse after everyone has gotten the loot off it. No skinner? No worries, the corpse has allready been looted. Skinners get a bonus.<br /><br />Enchanting mats come from the actual loot on the mob. No enchanter? Someone sells it for gold. Enchanting mats come at cost of gold to the group. <br /><br />I'm not argueing for or against anything by the way. I'm just stating pug mentality. Like I said, on guild runs i let the enchanter keep the things :-PMandiinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-35589079784209673032009-09-23T23:06:35.000+02:002009-09-23T23:06:35.000+02:00Uhm yah? How about those arctic furs you pick up s...Uhm yah? How about those arctic furs you pick up sometimes in instances? They go for a lot of gold, nobody insisting on rolling on those though ;p<br /><br />Recent blog:=- <a href="http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/09/random-thoughts-on-tradeskills.html" rel="nofollow"> Random thoughts on Tradeskills</a>Shynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8296072451123411896.post-72217871618424957482009-09-23T22:27:16.000+02:002009-09-23T22:27:16.000+02:00One of the reasons people want to roll on the ench...One of the reasons people want to roll on the enchanting materials at the end of dungeon is because of the counter arguement.... If there was no enchanter they could sell the items for gold. In a pug group the enchanter is basically asking everyone else to pay for their tradeskill, if they aren't willing to 'share the wealth'. <br /><br />(of course in guild groups I never would take shards etc from the enchanter)Mandiinoreply@blogger.com